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Jeah, the Russian AI does need some improvement, here and there. It often leaves many divisions and HQs without leaders, builds all the wrong units (like paratroopers and battleships) while the Germans are kicking in the door and does not research the right doctrines and techs that it needs (like tanks, arty, CAS and infantry).

So I hope that the Russians will put up a good fight in 1.4!

The Russian research does seem a bit strange - researching oil and coal prod when it has more than it will ever need.

Being kind, maybe if it did everything perfectly (ie as I would :rolleyes:) then itr would be unbeatable by 1941.

With nearly 300 divs and enough manpower to get most up to 100% the sheer numbers will be hard.

Congratulations on the (well-deserved) award! :)

Btw, seems we're up to rc 5 now. Maybe enough of an excuse/temptation for you to play ahead a bit? (Hungry for another update here. :D)

Get thee behind me Satan! I don't need people to tempt me - I can do that well enough myself.

I find RC 5 fine, but then I haven't the Beta testing exp. of others. If no game breakers are found in the next few days I may do a few days: not too hard to backtrack if things seem a bit odd.

Actually the Soviet AI building things that dont need MP is good since it already lacks the MP to mobilize its current forces, but to me this mainly shows that the Soviet MP is still too low.

CharonJr

Yes, I pretty much came to the same conclusion: that the AI won't build units if it can't afford to mobilise everything it already has. So it is just building construction prac exp.

Not sure if this means the MP is too low: 300 divs in 1939 seems pretty high to me. Maybe it is just building too many inf too soon.

RC5 seems to have given the USSR Leadership a significant boost.
 
Back on 21 Jan, Surt wrote:


Games started under 1.3 might be fatally flawed already, so you should try speed play to see if you can get a situation that resembles the current, but there are still weeks to that point and over a month to final 1.4.

It would be sad to abandon this AAR which is a great work.


I remember thinking at the time that this was a very pessimistic estimate of the time to 1.4 release.

Johan's words when releasing 1.4 Beta RC 1 on 18 Feb were:

1.4 - Public Beta

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Install at the top over a vanilla 1.3, if you know how to handle a .rar archive.

Please post all feedback in this thread, and we'll iron this out over the next few weeks. Or its splendid and perfect and we can go live ASAP.


I believed Johan rather than Surt.

How wrong I was! (And how lucky I didn't commit my own estimate of 2 weeks to paper).

After 18 days I am close to breaking point - I will probably start playing forward a bit tonight and start writing again on Wednesday. (Tuesday evening I have German class).
 
Ok, I admit it I was too optimistic at that time, tested RC5 over the weekend and found around 10 potential bugs (see my Canadian test in the RC5 thread) and didn't even get to complaining about US inactivity. Omaha (and every other state capital I think) is so important that it needs 3 divisions to guard it :) and no we are not talking about Omaha beach.
 
Ok, I admit it I was too optimistic at that time, tested RC5 over the weekend and found around 10 potential bugs (see my Canadian test in the RC5 thread) and didn't even get to complaining about US inactivity. Omaha (and every other state capital I think) is so important that it needs 3 divisions to guard it :) and no we are not talking about Omaha beach.

I think you will probably be about right - I can't see a final release this week so if next week then it will be some time after the 18th - about a month, which is what you predicted.
 
Excellent AAR, Uriah, makes me want to start up my Hoi3 AAR once again haha. Keep up the good work!
 
Excellent AAR, Uriah, makes me want to start up my Hoi3 AAR once again haha. Keep up the good work!

Thanks Arya V: we can never have too many HOI3 AARs!

I should have another update within the next day or so. (I am assuming no earth-shattereing changes between RC 5 and final ver 1.4: may be foolish but I can't hold off any more).
 
I should have another update within the next day or so. (I am assuming no earth-shattereing changes between RC 5 and final ver 1.4: may be foolish but I can't hold off any more).

Excellent.
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Also: RC6
 
Thanks Arya V: we can never have too many HOI3 AARs!

I should have another update within the next day or so. (I am assuming no earth-shattereing changes between RC 5 and final ver 1.4: may be foolish but I can't hold off any more).

I've been anxiously awaiting an update! But if you can, I would wait until the invasion AI gets fixed, John said that he found a few of the problems causing the static AI.
 
Slight delay while I try to work out how to adjust USSR.

RC6 is supposed to fix the USSR MP issue, but I am having difficulty with it. When I load my save game, USSR still can't introduce conscription (even 1 year). National Unity OK (77%) but neutrality 80.

Yet if I load 1/9/39 scenario, USSR can introduce 3 year conscription. (Neutrality about 35)

Played from 1/1/36 to 1/10/39 (as Costa Rica), loaded as USSR: cannot concript (neutrality 75 - needs to be below 70).

I can't see how USSR can reduce neutrality below 70 without altering spy missions for years: Winter War only reduces neutrality by 5 (and with Finland in Allies I don't think WW is possible).

I am tempted to just alter USSR neutraity to 69 to allow 1 year conscription at least. As the standard scenario allows 3yr I don't see this as going overboard. But I am just confused: is it even possible achieve the "historical" neutrality when playing USSR?
 
The Russian MP/Production problem

Well, I have loaded and run all sorts of variations, and I cannot get a 1936 AI controlled USSR to be able to introduce 1 year conscription in 1939. Yet the 1939 scenario has 3 year conscription available for the Russians. I can't even see how the Russians can get their neutrality below 70. They have very little leadership, they won't spend a lot on spies and they give low priority to "home" and high to Germany. So chances of lowering neutrality are minimal, even if they change from counter-espionage.

I have noticed that the "Great Purge" which used to give 250 MP now gives 500, so in my save game they are owed 250MP. What I am going to do is give them a one-off 500 MP boost which should solve some of the production problems (by pushing them over the mobilisation threshhold). Hopefully they will then manage to do something rather than just wait for Barbarossa.

I am reluctant to "fudge" save games but I don't want to attack a Russia that has 2,000 man divisions, no tanks or planes and 50 factories on the Kola Peninsula. And I think adding just an extra 250MP is not a game breaker.

If anyone has any thoughts, let me know - as always I will take them into consideration but promise nothing (ie the opposite of a politician).
 
Whatever is needed to get a challenging Barbarossa is okay with me, Uriah. What matters is that the AAR is interesting to read.

So give the USSR all the manpower it needs to get things going and give it a chance to make a stand against the might of the Wehrmacht.
 
My favourite setting is Hard without the production and supply maluses for the human, and with +20% manpower to the AI. (Note that this makes sense only when the human is playing Germany.) You also need the AIIP mod, otherwise even an upgraded USSR won't be mobilized before the war. Making one-time changes won't help the AI in the long run, as CharonJr found out.
 
Whatever is needed to get a challenging Barbarossa is okay with me, Uriah. What matters is that the AAR is interesting to read.

So give the USSR all the manpower it needs to get things going and give it a chance to make a stand against the might of the Wehrmacht.

My favourite setting is Hard without the production and supply maluses for the human, and with +20% manpower to the AI. (Note that this makes sense only when the human is playing Germany.) You also need the AIIP mod, otherwise even an upgraded USSR won't be mobilized before the war. Making one-time changes won't help the AI in the long run, as CharonJr found out.

Well, had a brief run (2 weeks) with USSR +500MP and neutrality down to 35%. It still will not buy anything bar buildings, it will not put leadership into spies and its technology is rubbish. But it is a lot better than before, reinforcing units etc. Maybe when it has finished reinforcing it will build units. So I think I will just leave it at that. I don't want to go any further - I don't like "peeking". It will be 18 months unitl I take them on - I have given them a head start (well, brought them up to the 1939 scenario really) - it is up to Jo Stalin now.
 
RC6 introduces fixes to get the Americans involved in the war, and invasions are rumoured to actually happen :), even if always still defeated in AI vs. AI :/ not to mention that the player has a big advantage over the AI here too!

I don't know if your able to hax Finlands diplo position, kick them from allies and make peace with all, should be possible even if I dont know how.

The AI diplo and spying is just bad still.
 
Rank and File
A Clerk’s War​

Sunday 16th October

No weekends off for key personnel such as filing administrators. I thought I would come in a do a bit more catching up, now that I was aware of the current situation. Hopefully a quiet Sunday would allow me to ease myself back into circulation.

I was having my morning coffee, usually a time when I insist on peace and quiet, when Gisela tapped on the door and apologetically told me that I had a visitor who was quite insistent. He had told her to let me know that Fregattenkapitän Karl Behrens was in town. Of course I immediately had her bring him in, and asked her to a cup of “proper” coffer for my Kriegsmarine friend. No ersatz hickory for a special occasion such as this.

I was a bit surprised to notice that Karl was wearing his “große Uniform”, but he explained he was in Berlin to be formally promoted, and he was expected to attend a few official ceremonies. I took the opportunity to congratulate him: it was only recently that he was made a Korvettenkapitän. He laughingly reminded me that it was actually in March 1937, and that we had last met in January 1938, when I had visited Kiel to see the launch of the “Scharnhorst”. Time flies when you are enjoying yourself – or maybe it is my head wound. I asked him about his promotion but he was not very forthcoming, a muttered comment about the Battle of the Pommeranian Coast and being lucky. (Of course I wasn’t satisfied with this, and after he had left I got a junior research clerk to look into it. There was quite an impressive file on my young friend. Karl had impressed some very important Kriegsmarine officers by his handling of his destroyer during the naval engagement in the Ostsee, repeatedly placing it between the French battleship “Provence” and the stricken cruiser “Stuttgart”. Despite his efforts to distract the French gunnery officers, the “Stutttgart” was lost, but his superiors believed he had shown the daring attitude that the Kriegsmarine values. His promotion was his reward for risking his ship for the good of the fleet.

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The “Provence”: an identification photograph from the Kriegsmarine files. Although a veteran of the last war, her five 340mm guns were still potent weapons, as the loss of the “Stuttgart” and “Emden” testified. I can appreciate the bravery required in taking a destroyer within range of those massive weapons.

Karl had somehow heard of my injury, and he had an hour before his first ceremony (which was close by) so he had taken the opportunity to drop in and see me. We spent a pleasant half hour talking of those few nights in Kiel: it seemed so long ago and so different. War had been in the air, but back then it was distant and non-alarming. Now it dominated everything. In hindsight, how carefree I had been, strolling along the dock and gazing at the sleek new ships.

Among all the pleasantries and memories I did pick up an interesting bit of information. Apparently it is well known in the Kriegsmarine, and the information is starting to spread to the foreign office: the reports from Italy about tremendous victories at sea are mainly boastful lies by Mussolini! He forced Count Ciano to pass on the false claims in a bid to make it appear as though the Regia Marina was the dominant power in the Mediterranean. Karl said he had been told this was to dissuade Germany from looking south for future conquests.

Admiral Raeder had known from the beginning that at least one of the claims was false. The Kriegsmarine runs a very efficient spy service of its own, small and specialised but quite reliable. At the time that the Italians had claimed to have sunk the French carrier Béarn, the Admiral had incontrovertible proof that it was sailing in the Bay of Biscay. Obviously this had prompted him to check the other Italian claims. Karl told me the results of the inquiries were an open joke in the Kriegsmarine officers’ messes.

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The “Béarn” patrols the Bay of Biscay. It was this photo that alerted Admiral Raeder that the Italian claims of naval victories were false. I have no idea how it was obtained: perhaps from our Portuguese allies?

The Italians had claimed to have sunk the Béarn, the light cruisers “Jeanne d’Arc”, “Orion” and “Caledon” and a total of 3 destroyer, 8 submarine and 9 transport flotillas, all for the cost of a single cruiser (the “Trento”), a destroyer squadron and 5 submarine flotillas. Our information is that they actually sank the cruiser “Kent”, the light cruisers “Galissionnaire”, “Orion” and “Galatea”, and 3 destroyer squadrons. Still not a bad record, except that to achieve that total they lost the battleships “Andrea Doria” and “Caio Diulio”, the cruisers “Trento” and “Trieste”, three light cruisers (“Armando Diaz”, “Duca D’Aosta” and “Eugene Di Savoia”) as well as 4 destroyer squadrons and 3 submarine squadrons. Overall, the Regia Marina has not performed well.

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The battleships “Andrea Doria” and “Caio Diulio”: when will the Italians admit that they have both been lost?

It seemed only minutes before Karl looked at his naval fob watch (a slight affectation, but I suppose we have to let the youngsters have their fun) and made his goodbyes. I told him that it must not be another 2 years next time, and he promised to get promoted more quickly.

After he left, there was another surprise. Gisela came into my office with a small folder, and hesitantly offered it to me. When I opened it, inside were summaries of all active conflicts in France and Denmark. When I had realised what the contents were, I looked at Gisela, who was looking embarrassed. She stammered that she know I was interested in the progress of the war and that I liked to keep up to date on which battles were in progress. As soon as she knew when I would be back at work, she had gathered these documents for me (I understand by telling people she was obtaining the documents on my orders). She apologised for not having updates for the entire period I was away, but said she had not been able, with her low security level, to access documents. She had however, kept a few notes of conversations she had overheard.

In the past few weeks, while the Wehrmacht slowly moved forward, the British had shown up in large numbers. No longer as an Expeditionary Force under French command, British units were everywhere in France, and were proving very resilient. More alarmingly, the Luftwaffe no longer had complete control of the air. In fact, many army officers complained that the RAF dominated the skies above their positions. Plane and pilot losses were mounting, and the Armee de l’Air was making a much stronger effort as well. RAF and French bombers had inflicted very heavy losses on our ground troops, and calls for more planes and more anti-air brigades were constant. While we have also benefitted, it appears that bombing has become far more lethal. The rumours are that the Patch 1.3 conspiracy had something to do with this, but how could they have affected the French and British bombers as well?

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Not all the British bombers get away: what remains of this Bristol Blenheim is on its way to a Luftwaffe research facility

At sea, I already knew that the Royal Navy had forced us to cancel all trade contracts as the loss of so many cargo ships (and merchant seamen) was a drain on national confidence. What I was unaware of was that our submariners have also improved markedly. We seem to be sinking several ships a week, a vast improvement on our previous performance. Was this also the result of the removal of the influence of the Patch 1.3 plotters?

She also had a bit of information on foreign affairs. It seems that not only Wehrmacht officers get talkative in the presence of a pretty and attentive listener. While it was true, as I had heard, that Australia was no longer a member of the Allies and had signalled an interest in joining the Axis, our diplomats report that closer enquiries showed that this would be impossible to achieve. There was also some serious news from the Soviet Union. No-one knows how they have managed it, but they have increased their manpower reserves significantly, and their policies show them to have become more hard-line and much less neutral. Minister von Neurath expects that very soon they will be enacting laws to introduce conscription and probably also to bring their economy closer to a war footing.

Having passed on her information, Gisela said something about having work to do, and left for her little alcove outside my door. She had given me a lot to think about, and not just in the news she had gathered. I decided I would have to amend my opinion of my secretary. She surprised me once when she revealed her near perfect memory for conversations. Now she had demonstrated not just a thorough knowledge of my habits and interests, but also an ability to gather, analyse and evaluate confidential information. While obviously her skills could be valuable for me, this could also be a double-edged sword. What if someone were to question her about my activities, innocent though they were?

The documents Gisela provided were very interesting. The first two battles were in Denmark, where General von Rundstedt’s Benelux Army is attempting to repel the combined Norwegian – Swedish invasion of the Danish island of Zealand. The largest and hardest fought battle is for Copenhagen itself. General Hartmann is in overall command, leading his own 19.infanterie and Böttcher’s 1st Marine-Sturm Division against the Swedish General Ehrensvärd, who has plenty of troops and is well dug in. From the information I saw, the Marines had taken some heavy punishment, but the 2nd Marine-Sturm Division is moving up to assist. The side comments on the report showed that someone in General Rundstedt’s staff did not have high hopes of success unless significant Luftwaffe assets were deployed to the Baltic, something that was extremely unikely.

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Battle of Copenhagen: note the Nordseeflotte unable to get close enough to assist.

The second ongoing Zealand battle was for Helsingör, and even I can see that there is little chance of success here. General Keitel is outnumbered, and his 22.Infanterie is already struggling to retain a semblance of organisation. With no likelihood of assistance, I think General Malmberg and his three brigades, exhausted though they may be, should be able to hold out.

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Battle of Helsingor

In France, while the Wehrmacht has been active, in the absence of any firm direction from OKH the tempo has definitely slowed in the past two weeks. The only two battles at midnight on the 15th October were in the provinces of Évreux and St Dizier. Évreux saw the redoubtable General Guderian and his 1st Leichte Panzer Division attempting to cross the Seine against a determined foe: the 3rd Marine Brigade under General Dickinson. As if a river crossing under fire were not hard enough (with not a pioniere in sight), the weather has turned ugly for the panzertruppen, with an autumn storm turning the Seine into a raging torrent. Still, Guderian is a tricky and experienced leader, and if anyone can force a crossing it is him.

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Battle of Évreux

The Battle of St Dizier is actually a French counter-attack, and on paper at least we have already lost. 20.Infanterie Division has been fighting hard for weeks and, according to General Curtze, it has been under constant air attack. The French, however, are using a fresh unit, 4th Motor Brigade under General Revers. Although we have a nominal superiority, the French attack is perfectly controlled while Curtze reports increasing difficulty in getting his men to respond to orders. Unless General Hausser of 1st Panzerkorps can react quickly and reinforce his divisional commander, I see no way we can retain the province.

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Battle of St Dizier

It looks as though some people have returned to work (or have been able to concentrate on their duties again) before me. The first pile of papers I examined all related to high level reorganisations and a series of directives for Army commanders, all direct from OKH. The lull since the assassination attempt is over.

As expected, there has been some commotion regarding the discovery of General Rommel languishing in Ragnit, East Prussia, guarding the border in charge of 73.Infanterie Division. He has been ordered to Berlin and promised command of the new panzer division that should be commissioned within a few weeks. General Brennecke has replaced him. This has prompted some hilarity, as Bremmecke is a specialist in winter operations, and the comfortable Berlin-based officers find it amusing that his skill has won him a post far in the east.

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Now based in Berlin, waiting for his first wartime armour command, General Rommel has managed to make a trip to France to inspect the conditions himself. It is this attention to detail that has earned him his reputation as a first rate commander. Here Julius von Bernuth, Chief of the General Staff of 2nd Panzerkorps, takes him on a tour of the front lines.

As far as the Armies are concerned, the newly appointed General Andrae has the least change with which to grapple. His objectives remain the same: to defend the Reich from Luxembourg to Todtmoos. The Westwall Army has retained nearly all its ground troops (it has lost only three divisions transferred north to General von Rundstedt), and in fact there are several Hungarian divisions in the area, which although not under the direct command of the Westwall Army , should be useful, if only as a reserve. General Andrae has, however, lost 1st Taktischeluftflotte and 1st Stukakorps, both of which have been transferred to the Österreich Army. It is felt that the crisis on the Westwall is over, and the planes are needed elsewhere.

General von Rundstedt has been given a much more difficult task, and fewer men with which to do it. His Army has been renamed to reflect the greater responsibility. It is no longer to be called the “Benelux” Army, but rather the Nordsee Army. He has lost 1st Motorkorps, which has also been attached to the Österreich Army, but has gained IX Armeekorps with its three divisions. The Nordsee Army is responsible for the entire Nordsee Coast from Brugge to Fredrikshavn, with particular emphasis on the ports. It also must maintain order in the occupied territories inland, guard our naval bases, and at the same time throw the Scandinavians out of Denmark. Only an officer with the skill and experience of General von Rundstedt would even try to carry out so many different yet critically important tasks simultaneously.

With Paris in our hands, Unternehmen Gummiknuppel has been successfully completed. Unternehmen Stahlknuppel is now to begin. The objective of “Stahlknuppel” is simple – to force the surrender of France by destroying her armed forces. At least for the opening stages of “Stahlknuppel”, the action will be driven by two armies, the Army of the Ardennes and the Österreich Army.

On our right flank, the Army of the Ardennes has been given new initial objectives: it is to protect Paris and drive for Dieppe, Cherbourg, Étampes and Orléans. Its primary purpose is to seize the Channel ports, but it is to also sweep west and south through northern France, crushing all resistance. Next to the Army of the Ardennes, the Österreich Army is to also defend Paris, but its objectives are all to the south and east. It is to drive for Rouen, Arlon, Longuyon, St Mihiel, St Dizier, Les Ricayes, Dijon and Besançon. The purpose is to seal off the troops on the Maginot and either force them to battle outside their defensive fortifications, or starve them into collapse. The extra armeekorps and two air fleets are an acknowledgment of the difficulties that General Dennerlein may be expected to encounter.

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The British have bolstered the French everywhere, even on the Maginot line: our spies have alerted us to the presence of the 51st Highlanders relieving French troops on garrison duty on the border.

The only other memorandum I had was from the Office of Skilled Personnel. The most recent review of our universities and high level education institutes has led to the conclusion that more research can be maintained. A new technical group has been set up, and it is to concentrate on developing strategies for targeting enemy fighters. Given Gisela’s comments about the increased activity of the RAF (and to a lesser extent the Armée de l’Air) we will probably need this sort of knowledge as soon as possible.

My desk is now clear. Now to wait for the first incoming reports.
 
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RC6 introduces fixes to get the Americans involved in the war, and invasions are rumoured to actually happen :), even if always still defeated in AI vs. AI :/ not to mention that the player has a big advantage over the AI here too!

I don't know if your able to hax Finlands diplo position, kick them from allies and make peace with all, should be possible even if I dont know how.

The AI diplo and spying is just bad still.

I won't change the Finns for two reasons:

I am not sure how to do it, and even less sure of hte impact of making the necessary changes

I am interested in seeing how I can take a hostile Baltic. It may give me some opportunities.


Anyway, I still feel a bit uneasy about "doctoring" the USSR, even though I have made it hard for myself. I said at the beginning of this AAR that I would play it as it developed, with no intervention if I didn't like the outcome. Obviously ver 1.4 made some sort of adjustment necessary, and I do wnat a Barbarossa that is not a cakewalk. But otherwise I am more comfortable with the status quo.

I hope that my recent changes are all that I will need to do.
 
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Mmmh the Regia Marina has lost two Battleship...bad news.
And I don't like the fact that the RAF is so effective.
 
Uriah, why not load up as USSR, give them a proper build queue and manpower amount (event cheat?), pick good ministers, and organise their OOB? That way come 1941, the Soviet Union will not be as screwed up.