CK2 - Dev Diary #121 - Court Improvements

[Castios]

Seconded. This shouldn't disable Achievements and, more importantly, should let me turn off the birth and death malus as well. I hate when my courtiers die of "poor health" at age thirty.

Makes me wonder... Right now having big court reduces your courtiers health and fertility, does it include your offspring?

 

[Cuban]

I love these quality of life improvements! I will say though, could we get some attention on warfare in terms of say more battlefield events, things like rules for more or less frequent dueling, being able to capture more enemy lords and commanders, ensure that all armies are properly staffed with their lords (lords would have to opt out of going with their levies to war) possibly a miniature system to represent the popularity a particularly successful commander gains, such as how the Charles Martel and his family became the rulers of France in effect because of his great victory at Tours. Make it flexible so that people shouldn't opt in to it if they don't want to but I think it would provide even more flavor and depth to an already solid game!

 

[General Karthos]

Does disabling the court size limit rule disable achievements?

 

[afrodius]

Three questions

1. How will court size limit affect achievements?

2. Will prisoners under house arrest count as courtiers or prisoners?

3. Will children under house arrest still be tutored my the ruler by default?

 

[Dr.Vegetable]

Building improvements in your capital - such as a better keep - should create extra capacity for your court.

Also a wonder in your capital province such as a grand palace should do the same thing.

I hope royal palaces will have significant court limit boost. Rn the great work seems way too weak.

 

[AntZudan]

This is absolutely brilliant! Although I hope it comes with a way to deal with children who are left behind when people leave your court

 

[DahndI]

This is mostly a player only feature. AI courts will still be pruned as per old code, but players will be given more choice in the matter.



Yes! This has been in since Holy Fury, and can be very useful! Due to some syntax discussion with coders, it is, however, necessary to write "any_" instead of "random_", because (and I quote our tech lead) "it is the exact opposite of random". But yeah, check out the 00_scripted_score_values file for more info!

HOW are "any" and "random" opposites? For example:
1: We need to grab any citizen to be our scapegoat
2: We need to grab a random citizen to be our scapegoat

If anything they are synonyms or at the very least similar in meaning.

 

[the_bear21]

I have wanted more stuff like this!

 

[Poliut]

you know what's really unfun micromanagement? When you dynasty controls a whole empire (like every county) and you have to find a good spouse for every god damn female offspring because the AI keeps marrying their neighbour-cousins for prestige or whatever and you would end up in a bordergored patchwork empire where every imbred morron fights over this and that claim... or even worse - lose those titles to non-dynastic heirs

God I wish the dynasty head had an option to disapprove betrothals

Though if the DH is AI controlled, he'll no doubt approve of those betrothals because prestige.

 

[Ruisuki]

FINALLY! QOL changes might take years to finally implement after requests but at least they are eventually added.

edit: glad to see its tied to rank, i suggested this before but sad that it looks like at king level its only a 24 cap? That is incredibly low. For count level I could see that but King?????

I also always hated that the landed councillors take up a spot, but I understand it. I despise that their wards are included in your court size though, and you have no say over whether they can bring them to your court or not, since even if you move them to a different court they can also educate another wards as soon as you do. Size of my court was always a factor in choosing councilors, i would often skimp out on choosing the best or most rebellious if they were landed because of this. If the limit is so low even with such a high rank as king (not counting majesty, but still) then it will only further discourage me from making use of this with conclave

 

[Rydelfox]

HOW are "any" and "random" opposites? For example:
1: We need to grab any citizen to be our scapegoat
2: We need to grab a random citizen to be our scapegoat

If anything they are synonyms or at the very least similar in meaning.

In scripting, any_character means every character that meets the requirements. random_character means one single character, picked at random, who meets the requirements.
So, example 1 would acutally be "We need to grab all citizens to be our scapegoats"

 

[Larva]

Cool stuff.
Just don't forget to include some hefty bonus to court limit for MR (maybe also increasing it with Mansion upgrades?)

 

[Rydelfox]

This doesn't sound like it will change how many people you'll want to have in your court, it will just replace the invisible health and fertility penalty with a visible financial penalty.

 

[Rydelfox]

Then this won't change anything for you - you switch from having family and councilors with no penalty to having family and councilors with no penalty.

 

[Ruisuki]

I want only my family and councilors. Why would i want anyone else?

Claimants, or future heirs you want to marry to your own, or land inside your own realm to absorb their land when they inherit, also people with congenital traits you want to breed.

 

[Prodig41]

Then this won't change anything for you - you switch from having family and councilors with no penalty to having family and councilors with no penalty.

Huh alright, i guess i see that. It just is a weird change to me saying that auto-generated “house lowborns” are supposed to be minor nobles now. Seemed weird to add mechanics for pointless court bloat, a feature that ultimately harms you. All they do is plot and scheme, there isnt even a stewardship bonus to represent the role that courtiers play

 

[Rydelfox]

This isn't changing what they're supposed to represent - courtiers have always been things like unlanded knights, ladies-in-waiting, etc. The new events would most likely be events firing for the liege (running events on all courtiers is expensive) that happen to involve various courtiers. From my understanding, it's not really new mechanics, just a more exciting way of saying "we added some new generic events" - several events like this already exist.

 

[SacremPyrobolum]

I hope this will also add flavor for when you are NOT at court. More events that acknowledge that you are out leading troops like writing letters back home or learning of some shenanigans happening while your gone.

 

[Rydelfox]

If theyre unlanded knights why do they spawn with no combat skills and randomized training, and if theyre ladies in waiting why do you get prestige maluses equivalent to marrying a peasant leader

On the other hand, note that the decision to create a new courtier is named "Invite Noble to Court"

 

[Sopbucket]

Sounds good. I'm going to have to try playing a republic next game, no fertility penalties means I can keep growing my dynasty within my court and get that many more trade posts for it.