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Paradox Interactive Forums - East vs. West http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/ en Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:43:58 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/images/misc/rss.png Paradox Interactive Forums - East vs. West http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/ Stream Tue 25th June 20:00 CEST http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?697150-Stream-Tue-25th-June-20-00-CEST&goto=newpost Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:49:47 GMT Hi all,

On Tuesday June 25th we'll run a stream for East vs West with the devs present. It will be a "first showing" type stream and a good way to gauge look and feel of the game and engage with the devs via the chat. The stream will be broadcasted via our Twitch channel http://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive

If you need to know how this time applies to your particular time zone I always find http://www.worldtimeserver.com/ very useful.

See you on the 25th!

Kind regards
Susana ]]> East vs. West Susana http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?697150-Stream-Tue-25th-June-20-00-CEST Bear or Octopus http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?697093-Bear-or-Octopus&goto=newpost Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:16:20 GMT You know what I mean. Most people either associate Communism with Bears or Octopi. So what about you? Also, Bear(d)s. You know what I mean. Most people either associate Communism with Bears or Octopi. So what about you?

Also, Bear(d)s. ]]> East vs. West Futomato http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?697093-Bear-or-Octopus can all nations have nukes? http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?697022-can-all-nations-have-nukes&goto=newpost Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:25:13 GMT just wondering if anyone knows how a nation would acquire nuclear weapons in the game and if any nation can have them or will the major powers object? i would like to make turkey a nuclear power when the game is released and figured that if i researched them early then the international community would not mind me having them like the UK, USA, soviet union, China, and many other nations as i will develop them at the same time as them. just wondering if anyone knows how a nation would acquire nuclear weapons in the game and if any nation can have them or will the major powers object?
i would like to make turkey a nuclear power when the game is released and figured that if i researched them early then the international community would not mind me having them like the UK, USA, soviet union, China, and many other nations as i will develop them at the same time as them. ]]> East vs. West nkrushchev http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?697022-can-all-nations-have-nukes Chemical Weapons in EvW? http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696982-Chemical-Weapons-in-EvW&goto=newpost Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:35:53 GMT I don't know if this has been addressed, but given that chemical weapons were such a key facet of Warsaw Pact offensive doctrine, are they going to be implemented in the game? ]]> East vs. West Questerr http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696982-Chemical-Weapons-in-EvW Chances of EvW cancelation http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696945-Chances-of-EvW-cancelation&goto=newpost Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:00:28 GMT Honestly I'd say its pretty good. It's been delayed by one whole year to fix things within the system which just speaks volumes about how far the game has progressed. There has only been 7 dds. The moderators can't agree if its marketing or bugs or both.

Just want some feedback.

What do you think? ]]> East vs. West sunsterson http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696945-Chances-of-EvW-cancelation My goal for EVW http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696494-My-goal-for-EVW&goto=newpost Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:08:08 GMT Attachment 83412

Since this didn't happen in real life, i'm going to make sure it does in the game. This time, the good side will win the cold war.

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]]> East vs. West theolor http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696494-My-goal-for-EVW Strategy-Round-Table-15-South-Vietnam http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696035-Strategy-Round-Table-15-South-Vietnam&goto=newpost Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:34:22 GMT

ATTENTION:
This thread includes the South Vietnamese Flag. If you live in Vietnam, please read at your own risk.

Quote:

Quote Originally Posted by Seattle
I'm trying to establish a series of roundtable discussions. Each topic focuses on one nation only! I hope that we can have fun and insightful discussions about different strategic approaches playing the nation in question. Once a discussion has run its course, somebody starts the next round with a nation of his choice (please make sure to name it: Strategy round-table: #6 - ...). Please make sure to include and update the list of former round-tables and this introduction. Thanks!

I'm aiming for the most clarity and structure in this thread. So please consider the following guidelines:
1. If you formulate a new strategy, call it: Strategy "..." (in bold letters)
2. If you comment on an existing one, refer to it as such: @Strategy "..."
3. [FOARP's amendment] Include links to previous round-tables and this message in all future round-tables

Strategy: Survival to Success (The 1955 Edition)
Or Leadership lessons for the Corrupt, the Unprepared, and the Hopeless

1. End Government Corruption:
Since the start of your country, you've lead alongside some pretty corrupt people that threaten the very stability of South Vietnam. Make sure you get these people out of power or make them change their ways by form of harsh punishment for government officials.

2. Win their Hearts and Minds:
Now that you have a government people can trust, it is time to bring your people together by granting religious rights, give land to the peasants, and whatever else you can think of to get your country to look into the eye of the enemy.

3. Train your soldiers for warfare:
The jungles are dense, my friend. If you want to destroy those Viet Congs, your soldiers must be prepared for guerrilla warfare. Request some military advisers if you need any.

4. Push out the Viet Cong:
This is probably one of the most important decisions you will make. Once the Viet Congs are gone, South Vietnam is now safer and you can take a breath, for now.

5. Close Friends:
Be sure to secure nearby allies, this includes Cambodia, Laos, Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, ect.

6. Western Aid:
While you may feel glorious from what you have accomplished so far, your work is not done. Acquire supplies from your capitalist allies around the world to fortify South Vietnam.

7. The Diem Trail:
While keeping Laos capitalist may seem difficult because of North Vietnamese support for the Pathet Lao, you can rally allied support for Laos by holding on to southern Laos, protecting South Vietnam from invasions from Laos.

8. The Tet Defensive:
After your intervention of Laos and Cambodia, you've probably pissed off the communists pretty well (good job!). The North Vietnamese now only have one place to invade, through the DMZ. You should have a decent amount of forces to defend with. At this point you should just hold until offensive is halted. Be sure they don't take any major cities like Hue.

9. A Call to Arms!:
Convince your major allies and the UN to support you against the NVA. Get the Americans to blockade all war supplies heading to Hanoi, support an invasion of Laos, and of course, send ground troops to Hue for an invasion of North Vietnam!

10. Soviet Union vs China:
The Chinese and the Soviets have been fighting for influence over Vietnam since Ho Chi Minh took power. But, because your American friends have blocked off the North Vietnamese coast, the only way the Soviets can get supplies to Vietnam is a long way through China. Because of the desperate situation of North Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh signs a deal with Deng Xiaoping, sending Chinese aid to Vietnam if North Vietnam doesn't accept Soviet aid. The Soviet Union can no longer supply the NVA because of our decisive decisions.

11. To Hanoi!:
Even though Chinese aid has increased, you still look optimistic. The only way to defeat North Vietnam is to take Hanoi. You convince the Americans to bombard the coastline and attack major supply lines. Your soldiers should storm into the heart of North Vietnam now and finish them once and for all!

12. Victory:
As the number of your victories increase, the Chinese will realize this war is not worth fighting for. The Chinese start to pull out, and your victory is guaranteed. When Hanoi falls, annex North Vietnam and unify the country, finally bringing peace to Vietnam!

13. What's next?:
Do to the Chinese failure to help North Vietnam, you should slowly enter a peaceful stage between Vietnam and China. Now that the war is over, it is time to build up Vietnam into an economic leader.

Spend the rest of the Cold War admiring what you have accomplished against all odds, a Democratic Vietnam.

]]> East vs. West EasternBloc http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?696035-Strategy-Round-Table-15-South-Vietnam Strategy Round Table: #14 Great Britain http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695922-Strategy-Round-Table-14-Great-Britain&goto=newpost Fri, 14 Jun 2013 23:18:30 GMT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattle

I'm trying to establish a series of roundtable discussions. Each topic focuses on one nation only! I hope that we can have fun and insightful discussions about different strategic approaches playing the nation in question. Once a discussion has run its course, somebody starts the next round with a nation of his choice (please make sure to name it: Strategy round-table: #6 - ...). Please make sure to include and update the list of former round-tables and this introduction. Thanks!

I'm aiming for the most clarity and structure in this thread. So please consider the following guidelines:
1. If you formulate a new strategy, call it: Strategy "..." (in bold letters)
2. If you comment on an existing one, refer to it as such: @Strategy "..."
3. [FOARP's amendment] Include links to previous round-tables and this message in all future round-tables

A strategy likely to be popular with all Paradoxians who boast a Union Jack in their avatars and seem intent upon treating EvW as an expansion of the Victoria series, the Winston prides itself with it's complete disregard for realism and pragmatism. Not only will you attempt to hang onto the Empire, you'll hang onto it without any reforms or concessions to the natives. But that's for later on, your actual objective is to win World War Three before too many of these curious atomic devices proliferate. Look forward to near certain failure, you complete and utter lunatic.

1) In Churchill's words, you've "slaughtered the wrong pig". The Soviet Union was the real threat all along. Begin preparing for war pronto, sod the debt and sod reconstruction. It's your duty to ensure Operation Impossible goes ahead. If you so desire, launch an immediate intervention in the Chinese Civil War.

2) Join NATO to make sure America will be dragged along, and if this is a multiplayer game it might help if you have a US player who agrees with General McArthur that the best way to deal with Communism is to use Americas atomic weapons to make up for any weaknesses the West has in a conflict with the USSR and it's allies. Your main problem here is that your own manpower will have to be used to keep order in those colonies you'll never part with willingly. Hope the Americans do the lions share of the work for us, eh chaps?

3) Hopefully you, America and your friend De Gaulle haven't lost the war conventionally in spite of America making Moscow and other Russian cities go up in smoke. If the Soviet Union is gone, then you've managed to rid the world of a power that will almost certainly be supporting rebellions against the Empire.

4) Empires should stick together - try and cement relations with all other struggling imperial powers. Send British lads to help hold down the populations in Portuguese and Belgian colonies - it's not as we'll run out of manpower... wait...

5) You population will likely be suffering badly from your endless war mongering. Just.... errrm, try to hold on and keep a stiff upper lip. You've committed yourself to this crazy strategy and you don't want to back out now, do you? "If your going through hell, keep going!"

6) Never give an inch - either to the domestic populace or to the colonial peoples. Respond to all dissent by ramping up the oppression. Gerrymandering, banning of left-wing parties - no holding back. Never willingly lose a colony, invade them when they unitarily declare independence.

7) If your still committed to this madness and have not been utterly destroyed, trying invading India or South Africa for a laugh. Play a game where you see just how low Britain's available manpower can drop, and just how badly it will affect your economy in years to come!

9) ????

10) Happy now?! ]]> East vs. West Super-Soviet http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695922-Strategy-Round-Table-14-Great-Britain What country do you plan to play as first? http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695890-What-country-do-you-plan-to-play-as-first&goto=newpost Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:23:32 GMT I think I will either play as Russia or North Korea. Both countries seem very interesting to play as!

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]]> East vs. West PotatoMan http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695890-What-country-do-you-plan-to-play-as-first <![CDATA[Features you'd like to see that has not yet been announced/added.]]> http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695869-Features-you-d-like-to-see-that-has-not-yet-been-announced-added.&goto=newpost Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:57:25 GMT I'll start

Frozen sea waters
Offshore resources
Dynamic resource system. Some resources decrease in volume, while the volume of other increase as time passes by. This is most important in relation to for example petroleum resources.
Lend and lease system from HOI3
Distinction between terrain and biomes. A hill can have a forest on it, and it can not have a forest on it
A convoy system that applies to land as well as seas.
A realistic infrastructure expansion system. Not only roads but water supply, sewers, electrical grids, telecommunications and social services could be part of this. Technology should also play a part.
Ability for partisan and rebel forces to move and fight through provinces without occupying them.
Military access for regions and provinces
Naval territorial access
Most regions should have some form of anti-air garrison (AA, radars, interceptors) and most coastal provinces should have some form of anti-ship garrison (minefields, fast attack crafts, patrol boats, coastal fortifications) without making too much micromanagement.
Foreign military attaches that boost technological research in specific fields.
Ability to invest in, aid and develop, other countries.
Merchant navies
Ability for submarines to pass through straits and through frozen waters
Selling and giving away of military materiel

I haven't read the dev diaries too much so some of these features might already be in the game... ]]> East vs. West Easy1 http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695869-Features-you-d-like-to-see-that-has-not-yet-been-announced-added. How will the Bretton Woods system be represented? http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695646-How-will-the-Bretton-Woods-system-be-represented&goto=newpost Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:57:02 GMT The collapse of the bretton woods system and capital market liberalisation was the key turning point of western economies in the mid 1970s. First it was done by the USA, and eventually all other major countries (most spectacularly with the USSR). There were several political attempts to re-institute controls (in the late 1970s with Labour, by Miterrand in the 1980s) that failed because of too high an economic cost. This meant that from that period onwards capital markets increasingly dictated state policies. Will this be represented in the game? The collapse of the bretton woods system and capital market liberalisation was the key turning point of western economies in the mid 1970s. First it was done by the USA, and eventually all other major countries (most spectacularly with the USSR). There were several political attempts to re-institute controls (in the late 1970s with Labour, by Miterrand in the 1980s) that failed because of too high an economic cost. This meant that from that period onwards capital markets increasingly dictated state policies. Will this be represented in the game? ]]> East vs. West history_fan http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695646-How-will-the-Bretton-Woods-system-be-represented Wikipedia leaders http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695546-Wikipedia-leaders&goto=newpost Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:44:41 GMT I think this game should (like crusader kings 2) have an option by the characters name to see their wikipedia article on them like Crusader kings 2, so that way people can not only read about the major leaders but also the minor ones of other countries that were not really out there so to speak in the cold war. I think this game should (like crusader kings 2) have an option by the characters name to see their wikipedia article on them like Crusader kings 2, so that way people can not only read about the major leaders but also the minor ones of other countries that were not really out there so to speak in the cold war. ]]> East vs. West theolor http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695546-Wikipedia-leaders What happens if North and South Korea are the same government? http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695449-What-happens-if-North-and-South-Korea-are-the-same-government&goto=newpost Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:31:24 GMT Or East and West Germany. Or North and South Vietnam. Or East and West Germany. I could go on for a while. The cold war is filled with countries that were split by communism and capitalism. What will happen if somehow, both countries of a pair end up with the same (or close) government? Or East and West Germany. Or North and South Vietnam. Or East and West Germany.

I could go on for a while. The cold war is filled with countries that were split by communism and capitalism. What will happen if somehow, both countries of a pair end up with the same (or close) government? ]]> East vs. West Tgls http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695449-What-happens-if-North-and-South-Korea-are-the-same-government <![CDATA[Could someone please explain what "expert" means?]]> http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695000-Could-someone-please-explain-what-quot-expert-quot-means&goto=newpost Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:14:27 GMT Just like the title says. In HOI3 there's an option in each menu for a normal and AI controlled mode, in the game I just keep seeing "expert". I don't get what it's suppose to mean. ]]> East vs. West rndfan http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?695000-Could-someone-please-explain-what-quot-expert-quot-means Favorite Leaders http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?694968-Favorite-Leaders&goto=newpost Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:47:26 GMT If I recall correctly, within the game's timeline, Ron Paul should be a possible Head of State for the USA in the later portion of a playthrough. Nobody will know what hit them when the US's support skyrockets and the economy hits a whole new rise, given as we had cash to work with back then. :cool:

Who are you planning on (more-or-less) subtly engineering the world with? ]]> East vs. West AMWarfield http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?694968-Favorite-Leaders